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#187: chuksi » #186: Nemanja77 Supporter Gold
Назад до верху! 3-12-2019 21:36

Stop it. You are stats dependent :)

So what if Neymar at 21 scored only 9 goals....who gives a damn?
Football is not all about stats. Better look at his movement, his overall quality.


You assume that, but it's not true. I just check them out to see whether my gut feeling has some backing or not and if it does, then I also include stats in my argument because I feel like it's good to back your opinion up with some tangible facts.

My point isn't to say that Rashford is better than those superstars. My point is that even those players we now see as great players were once inconsistent and didn't produce the goods every week and thus it would be strange for us to expect Rashford to be consistent. I think we forget how inconsistent those young players were. We remember the good seasons from Ronaldo, not the ones where we saw potential instead of real quality. With Rashford it's the same. The match against Arsenal was a great example, in general he wasn't great, but in some moments he did things that others couldn't - he created two great chances and found space for a free header in the last 10 minutes(that he didn't score unfortunately).

I rate Martial a bit higher, which doesn't mean I have something against Rashford.


I'm sure you don't, but if you repeat it too often and suggest that Rashford should be subbed when we don't have great options on the bench, then it can seem like you don't like Rashford. That's all I'm saying.

#188: Bendtsen Supporter Platinum » #1: Всіх
Назад до верху! 3-28-2019 13:33
And finally Solskjær became permanent manager... YES
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#189: Lamba » #188: Bendtsen Supporter Platinum
Назад до верху! 3-28-2019 15:54
Now we just need to get Woodward away from contracts and players and everything's good.
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#190: HKN-Kaffenyteren Supporter Platinum » #188: Bendtsen Supporter Platinum
Назад до верху! 3-28-2019 16:42
hva fanden, en fjellabe!
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#191: chuksi » #188: Bendtsen Supporter Platinum
Назад до верху! 3-28-2019 17:05
Let's hope he does well. This could be the start of something great. I'm trying to contain my optimism and see how things could turn out to be less good than they've looked so far, but I have faith.

The rumours about transfers recently have looked much better than anything in previous years. If our main targets this summer are Sancho and Wan-Bissaka, then I'm happy! Right profiles of players.

Now if only they'd also manage to tie De Gea, Herrera and Rashford to longer term deals. Perhaps Bailly as well.. Then we'd be in a strong position.

#192: Bendtsen Supporter Platinum » #190: HKN-Kaffenyteren Supporter Platinum
Назад до верху! 3-29-2019 07:49
But my big idol... I love Ole Gunnar, he will always be the greatest. Even before that goal i 99.

But him and Hareide is the only Fjellaber we like
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#193: Bendtsen Supporter Platinum » #191: chuksi
Назад до верху! 3-29-2019 07:52
I think Bailly has to go. Solskjær doesn't seem to like him, he makes to many mistakes.

Him, Rojo, Valencia, Darmian, and Mata need to leave...

Sancho would be nice. I don't understand why we not are in the fight for De Ligt from Ajax. He is going to be World class, and then we have a long term solution i Central defence
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#194: chuksi » #193: Bendtsen Supporter Platinum
Назад до верху! 3-29-2019 08:25
Yeah, that's the thing with our centre backs - they're all sort of ok and some are pretty decent, especially looking at how they've performed since Ole took over, but at the same time they're not world class. I would be happy if we got De Ligt. I'm somewhat unsure about his quality, because he is coming from Holland and the players are kind of hit and miss from there. At the same time considering his age and experience I guess it wouldn't be THAT risky.

As for the list of leavers you said - I somewhat agree on all of them. Only Bailly and Mata might be the ones where we could argue. Bailly has the potential to be our best CB, but right now lacks consistency. Mata.. well, he is a quality player and could be useful. Although I feel that if we were to buy Sancho, then there are enough players in our attack that he isn't needed.

If it were an option to keep Mata or Sanchez, I'd surely keep Mata.

#195: Nemanja77 Supporter Gold » #193: Bendtsen Supporter Platinum
Назад до верху! 3-29-2019 08:33
Bendtsen написав:

I think Bailly has to go. Solskjær doesn't seem to like him, he makes to many mistakes.

Him, Rojo, Valencia, Darmian, and Mata need to leave...

Sancho would be nice. I don't understand why we not are in the fight for De Ligt from Ajax. He is going to be World class, and then we have a long term solution i Central defence


Can't agree about Bailly. If the likes of Smalling and Jones are still here after 10 years of stupid mistakes, why would we give up on a player with huge potential like Bailly, after such short time?
About De Ligt, agreed 100%. I'd love it if we bought him.
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#196: Lamba » #194: chuksi
Назад до верху! 3-29-2019 11:30
Bailly is a simply cut. He doesn't learn from his mistakes. He'll never get any better.

Everyone makes mistakes, it's natural. Even Van Dijk does that. Bailly gets a lot of (red) cards for doing the exact same mistakes. His inability to change that is what makes him a liability.

We're fortuneate to have loyal soldiers like Smalling (and Jones) and previously Evans, who are by no means spectacular but plays well above their pay.
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Пост видалено офіційними особами Hattrick.
#198: Buggle Supporter Gold » #193: Bendtsen Supporter Platinum
Назад до верху! 3-29-2019 13:44
Buggle Supporter Gold
North York FC.
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I was watching an Ivory Coast match at the African Cup a couple days ago, and Bially totally flubbed a ball back to him. Totally scuffed it, opposing forward went in on a break. He sucks.

#199: Nemanja77 Supporter Gold » #191: chuksi
Назад до верху! 3-29-2019 16:44

Let's hope he does well. This could be the start of something great. I'm trying to contain my optimism and see how things could turn out to be less good than they've looked so far, but I have faith.



Man Utd is a "romantic club" and a vast majority of the fans (myself included) support the decision to give Ole the job.

The Board's decision of Mourinho sacking and Ole coming as interim manager had a perfect timing, as the schedule was not very difficult, so Ole could hit the ground running.
However, I am sure that they didn't expect him to do THAT well.
I think their plan was definitely not to go with Ole long time, but his results simply forced them to give him the job. It also went well for them financially, as his contract will surely cost much less compared to any of the names they might have brought instead.

Apart from the great atmosphere that Ole brought and excellent results, we started playing with more freedom and flair, which was welcomed by the fans, previously bored to death by LVG and Mourinho.

Now...there is a lot of work to be done and the hard part is ahead of OGS.

Until now, under Ole the team has definitely had an over-achievement. The results were somewhat above the quality of our game, so it is yet to be seen whether a kind of regression will follow. I think it's almost inevitable and we shouldn't be surprised if some of the next results are not as good as in the first weeks of Ole's management.

We must be aware that it is very much possible that United will NOT finish in the top 4 this season and that we will also be eliminated from CL soon.

While I am happy with Ole getting the job and Man Utd seemingly going back to the roots, I try to keep my expectations low, or at least on a realistic level.

Improvements that I would like to see from Ole are related especially to the possibility of making those game-changing substitutions or tactical tweaks and reactions when we are not playing well.

Ole's lack of experience and maturity can be well compensated by Mickey Phelan.
Said that, I am still not completely sure who is the "main man" between those two. I'd say they are leading the team together, with a combination of Ole's freshness and positivity and Phelan's experience and personality.

OK, the first step has been made by giving Ole the job, but now the Glazers and Woodward must follow-up with the crucial part - appointing the director of football and giving Ole all possible means for the transfer market. Without these steps, all of recent good work might be in vain.

The rumours about transfers recently have looked much better than anything in previous years. If our main targets this summer are Sancho and Wan-Bissaka, then I'm happy! Right profiles of players.



As I said here previously, Wan-Bissaka would be an improvement on the RB position and that would be a typical Man Utd move, getting one of the best young players in his position in EPL.

Sancho would also be a great addition and improvement, hopefully for years to come.

Declan Rice is also a possible addition, according to the media. I didn't like him as a central defender, but he is playing very well in midfield. I am yet to be convinced that he will become a player of Man Utd calibre, but surely there is a huge potential and I wouldn't mind if we brought him.

All of these targets are brilliant domestic young players, but I'd also like to see an important addition in central defence, whether it is Varane, Koulibaly, De Ligt or maybe Giménez.

It goes without saying that we also need to sell, but we've elaborated this earlier, so I won't repeat the names etc.
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#200: chuksi » #199: Nemanja77 Supporter Gold
Назад до верху! 3-29-2019 22:49

Declan Rice is also a possible addition, according to the media. I didn't like him as a central defender, but he is playing very well in midfield. I am yet to be convinced that he will become a player of Man Utd calibre, but surely there is a huge potential and I wouldn't mind if we brought him.


I can't see him being good enough. He is young and English and gets hyped a bit too much. I don't think he is anywhere near the level of a top class DM nor is he anywhere near a top class ball playing midfielder. Thus I hope we aren't too serious about him.

As I said here previously, Wan-Bissaka would be an improvement on the RB position and that would be a typical Man Utd move, getting one of the best young players in his position in EPL.


The only question about that deal would be whether we need a RB? We already have a player of a similar profile in Dalot and we also have Tuanzebe and Fosu-Mensah, who could either or both be backups there.

I mean - what message does it send to Dalot if we replace him? Or.. are we just writing Dalot off already? He's barely played for us and hasn't been bad.

My gut feeling says that waiting for a season to see if/how much Dalot improves and whether the young boys can compete before buying a RB.

And to be precise, I'd very much prefer Achraf Hakimi if we were spending big on a right back. I just think he is better than Wan-Bissaka for a club like United. I'm not totally convinced that Wan-Bissaka can offer enough offensively while Hakimi does that. It just feels like he could be available from Real, even though I think it would be stupid of them to sell him. But that's Real, so...

All of these targets are brilliant domestic young players, but I'd also like to see an important addition in central defence, whether it is Varane, Koulibaly, De Ligt or maybe Giménez.

Of them I feel that Varane is impossible(or Real want 100m+, Koulibaly is 28 in the summer, so IMO too old and probably costs like 70m or smth. De Ligt would be the right profile. Gimenez.. well, he is good, but as Atletico have already sold Lucas Hernandez for an insane 80m to Bayern(I think), then is it realistic that they'd sell him for anything other than crazy money, especially as he is under contract until 2023.

From a footballing perspective they'd improve our team, but only De Ligt would be a good deal.

#201: Lamba » #200: chuksi
Назад до верху! 3-30-2019 07:35
Declan Rice is Irish.

He's exactly the kind of guy I'd take a gamble on if the price was right. Rumor has it, that Hammers have turned down €40m flat out though, so I think we should just leave it be, unless we believe he's THAT much better than McTominay, who has really grown on me.

We NEED someone to be ready to step in after Matic is done - and I think that's sooner rather than later and we need someone else who can step in as a defensively oriented midfielder.

We need a right back, but it's mostly a "bridge" player. Relying solely on a talent like Dalot as right back is risky at best. Valencia and Young are too old and getting too slow - and are really retrained wingers. I don't see this situation as a good long term solution. Rather get in someone in their mid/late 20's, even if it's not a big name.
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#202: HKN-Kaffenyteren Supporter Platinum » #201: Lamba
Назад до верху! 3-30-2019 08:40
I hear that we are lokking for WAN Bissaka on right back.
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#203: chuksi » #201: Lamba
Назад до верху! 3-30-2019 11:54
Declan Rice just played for England NT. In his youth he played for Ireland, but he is an England international.

But I wouldn't take a gamble on him. I just don't see him offering anything special. I see more potential in McTominay anyway.

I agree that we need someone to replace Matic, sooner rather than later. He feels like he is just barely mobile enough to make sure things work.

But for that DM role we need someone like Matic, who isn't just about defending, but who is also very good at playing the ball forward. Not taking risks like Pogba, but just trying to pass to our attackers or wingers feet and progressing the ball.

As for the right back - relying on Dalot has it's risks, but if they believe in him, then they should risk it. That's the United way. If it all goes tits up, then Smalling or Jones can be a stopgap solution there until another transfer window comes along.
The thing is that I'm not entirely convinced that Wan-Bissaka is a big upgrade to Dalot. Dalot had one or two poor games, but generally hasn't been bad IMO. Wan-Bissaka has been good, but he is in a poor team that defends a lot and if you see the highlights it's easy to see him in a good light. The (smaller) mistakes he makes aren't put under scrutiny in MOTD and we just don't see them. I might be wrong about him, a few of his games have impressed me as well, but generally about his defensive work - nowadays I think it's important that the full backs offer significantly in attack as well. Which is not to say Wan-Bissaka couldn't improve in that department if he needs to.

It just feels like it might not be a significant upgrade and at the same time it would be a show of no confidence to Dalot. Thankfully we have another two months when Dalot might be given chances to show himself and perhaps make sure this discussion is moot :).

#204: HKN-Kaffenyteren Supporter Platinum » #203: chuksi
Назад до верху! 3-30-2019 14:22
Buy Declan and and Sancho and play then in over time. We need a big squad. But Gnabry as a first Choice on wright wing.
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#205: chuksi » #204: HKN-Kaffenyteren Supporter Platinum
Назад до верху! 3-30-2019 14:34
Why is everyone so hyped about Declan Rice? He's a meh.. kind of a player.

As for Gnabry vs Sancho. Two things are in favor of Sancho. He is four years younger and thus has a LOT more room to improve and if he does well, we'd have him for four more years. He is English, so that helps with the homegrown rules.

But also - Sancho plays for a worse team so getting those stats is more impressive. Also Bayern is a bigger/richer club, so the price could be higher for Gnabry.

#206: HKN-Kaffenyteren Supporter Platinum » #205: chuksi
Назад до верху! 3-30-2019 14:52
i'm not hyped, think he is a really good number16-18 in the squad, but he can be good.
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